Comments on: Top 10 Phillies Prospects http://phillieslongdrive.com/top-10-phillies-prospects/ Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: The A Team http://phillieslongdrive.com/top-10-phillies-prospects/comment-page-1/#comment-68 The A Team Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:56:49 +0000 http://phillieslongdrive.com/?p=172#comment-68 I'm definitely more pessimistic about the pitchers than you. I have trouble envision either guy in anything other then a bullpen role. On the flip side of that coin, I think both pitchers should at least be able to provide value as cheap 7th inning relievers if not true fireman ability. Gillies was the prize of the trade. That said, 3 months on I don't think Jack Z fleeced us much if at all. I think Gillies alone will make up for the ~ 6 wins at 8 mil Cliff Lee is likely to provide. I'm thinking he'll consistently be a 2-3 WAR player for a long time. Think of Aumont and Ramirez as the draft picks. They're the bigger gambles in the deal. Two years from now we could be talking about how Ruben fleeced Jack Z. We'll have to wait and see. I would have liked to trade Lee for one premium player, but the Phillies scouts drool over Gillies so maybe they think they did. I’m definitely more pessimistic about the pitchers than you. I have trouble envision either guy in anything other then a bullpen role. On the flip side of that coin, I think both pitchers should at least be able to provide value as cheap 7th inning relievers if not true fireman ability. Gillies was the prize of the trade.

That said, 3 months on I don’t think Jack Z fleeced us much if at all. I think Gillies alone will make up for the ~ 6 wins at 8 mil Cliff Lee is likely to provide. I’m thinking he’ll consistently be a 2-3 WAR player for a long time. Think of Aumont and Ramirez as the draft picks. They’re the bigger gambles in the deal. Two years from now we could be talking about how Ruben fleeced Jack Z. We’ll have to wait and see.

I would have liked to trade Lee for one premium player, but the Phillies scouts drool over Gillies so maybe they think they did.

]]> By: theLgndKllr35 http://phillieslongdrive.com/top-10-phillies-prospects/comment-page-1/#comment-67 theLgndKllr35 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:00:42 +0000 http://phillieslongdrive.com/?p=172#comment-67 I've been thinking about the Seattle deal, and do you feel that if somehow Ramirez or Aumont avoid the injury bug, and fix their mechanics, their upside would be increased as well. Possibly even getting a 3 starter out of Ramirez, like he was first projected. Aumont with his hip problems I've really just given up hope on for starting and hope he can be an effective closer. Also, on a scale of 1-10, how badly did Z do us over in that trade. Poor Ruben's still sore I'm betting. I’ve been thinking about the Seattle deal, and do you feel that if somehow Ramirez or Aumont avoid the injury bug, and fix their mechanics, their upside would be increased as well. Possibly even getting a 3 starter out of Ramirez, like he was first projected.

Aumont with his hip problems I’ve really just given up hope on for starting and hope he can be an effective closer.

Also, on a scale of 1-10, how badly did Z do us over in that trade. Poor Ruben’s still sore I’m betting.

]]> By: The A Team http://phillieslongdrive.com/top-10-phillies-prospects/comment-page-1/#comment-66 The A Team Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:08:05 +0000 http://phillieslongdrive.com/?p=172#comment-66 You'll notice in my next few posts that Gillies plays pretty prominent in my future plans. I think he's a high probability ML CF, what I'm not sure about is his ceiling. The 8 ranking might be a little harsh but I do value upside over certainty in these rankings. You’ll notice in my next few posts that Gillies plays pretty prominent in my future plans. I think he’s a high probability ML CF, what I’m not sure about is his ceiling. The 8 ranking might be a little harsh but I do value upside over certainty in these rankings.

]]> By: k_dol50 http://phillieslongdrive.com/top-10-phillies-prospects/comment-page-1/#comment-65 k_dol50 Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:33:49 +0000 http://phillieslongdrive.com/?p=172#comment-65 I'm wondering if your thoughts on Gillies have changed at all since Grapefruit League play started. Obviously, his at bats so far form an insignificant sample size, and only one game has been televised so far, but he's hitting major league or near major league pitching, including a home run. Again, it's early, but if we start seeing more from this guy as the spring progresses, how attached is he to the 8 spot on this list? I’m wondering if your thoughts on Gillies have changed at all since Grapefruit League play started. Obviously, his at bats so far form an insignificant sample size, and only one game has been televised so far, but he’s hitting major league or near major league pitching, including a home run. Again, it’s early, but if we start seeing more from this guy as the spring progresses, how attached is he to the 8 spot on this list?

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